#i feel like eddie's begin was centered on his faulty relationship with shannon and his ptsd we don't really know anything about him

[deluweil]

I feel like the characters of Buck and Eddie's specifically are so underdeveloped it borders on crime at this point.

Because Buck has traveled all over the world, he was a so called sex addict, and sought (still seeks) attention from every breathing relatively human form he comes across.

He was a bartender and his communication skills are limited to flirting mode (see 911 LS hold the line) - It's like right there where TK from LS felt the need to tell Buck that he has a boyfriend - and you're telling me he never experimented?? Never been kissed by a drunken man?

He has gay friends, has he never been to a gay club??

And Eddie! The man was in the army, he was never in love with Shannon, he loved her - sure - she was the mother of his child, they had sexual chemistry but there was nothing there emotion wise.

Also often they'd have sex after they were reunited to avoid actually talking to each other.

Eddie went and reenlisted to a job he knew there was a fair chance he may not return home alive from, to avoid actually having to deal with the realization of Christopher's diagnosis and not being able to adjust and not wanting to be a husband to Shannon.

He didn't want to get married, he did that because he knocked her up not because he wanted to get married - his way of running was enlisting. - It was his personal suicide mission. - Like he said in 5X14 - his friends are gone and he's still here - "not sure why." - it wasn't just survivor's guilt, he never planned to live in the first place.

And you're telling me that with all his time spent with soldiers most of them men, not thinking about his wife, just his son - because when he was in a dire situation it wasn't a picture of Shannon and Christopher, it was just Christopher.

And in 3X15, He does see Christopher but he also sees BUCK! ALOT!

Are you telling me that in this very intimate connection he has with Buck, that he seems so comfortable in - there was nothing similar that preceded that? Eddie broke down when he found out all his friends from the army were dead, was there something more there? Other than failing to save them from themselves and bad luck?

I feel like 7 seasons later and all I know of Buck and Eddie from before can be summarized in one paragraph each and nothing more - I can write articles about what I deduced watching them with each other the past 7 seasons, but nothing that explains that intense, intimate, tension underneath the surface between them.

I want to know where it's buried. Give me less LIs and chemistry-less relationships - And give me a history that can connect me to the here and now, that explains what made Buck and Eddie, almost instantly, BuckandEddie - buddie.

I want them to be developed characters, and not just the scratch the surface we got so far.

I have so many questions!!!

[outrunningthedark]

To each there own I guess but it honestly baffles me that people like Shannon. I'm sure the character has some redeeming qualities but none of them were ever portrayed in the show. Besides being ableist, which is obviously enough not to like her, she's also extremely self centered and never takes responsibility for her actions. Every time I watch Eddie Begins I hate her more. She's just so rude and dismissive. I know Eddie wasn't making the best decisions at the time but she basically rolled her eyes at everything he said which does not encourage open communication. So I just really wonder what people like about her? Because I don't see it.

I'm sure the person who sent me that message would say they like the Shannon they've created in their minds the same way TayKay stans on here prefer the version of her they write/read about in fics. But the problem is that by pretending Shannon is someone she was never portrayed to be they (and every other Shannon "fan") is ignoring her ableism and selfishness.

The conversation surrounding Christopher's mother always comes back to whether she was justified in abandoning him because "it's also canon that Eddie left". (Hey, anon! 👋🏻) Okay. Take that element out of the equation. What about the way she spoke of her son? What about how him being born with CP made her feel like she'd done something "wrong"? What about how she made his condition about herself at almost every opportunity? What about how we never actually witnessed a change in her perception because that wasn't the point of the story? Shannon died because Tim didn't want to redeem her. (A curious choice, tbh, since fixing their relationship would have been the quickest way to divert attention away from the otp that was gaining popularity.) Unlike Eddie, she never admitted that her thinking was faulty. Unlike Eddie, she wasn't committed to sticking around. Keep bringing up her death all you want. It won't change the fact that Shannon knew there was a chance she would abandon Christopher a second time because she wasn't built to put her child's needs before her own. I can't stop anybody from liking her, and I continuously see things in the app that make me cringe (calling E x S an "otp"? really?), but if you're gonna like this character, you need to acknowledge ALL her shitty personality traits, not just the ones you can compare to Eddie as "proof" that he wasn't any better.